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courteous mass write-up in AJC
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Nice! Way to "drive" a
Nice! Way to "drive" a point Conjob!
I do wonder where they got one fact tho:
"...Courteous Mass ride that drew more than 100 cyclists. More than three times that number routinely show up for Critical Mass."
angel was counting
right? i had heard 100 people from other sources pre-ajc write-up.
Yeah, it was about 110 by
Yeah, it was about 110 by the time we left.
the reporter
told me that she has been to at least a few CM rides before... a few folks counted and came up with about 100 folks for the courteous mass ride. the last couple of CM write-ups in the AJC counted riders in the 300 range, didn't they?
yeah, the 100 and 300 sound
yeah, the 100 and 300 sound right, but that would be "over 1/3 the number that show up for critical mass" and not "three times the number that show up for critical mass"/
read it again
i think you're confusing yourself
that != the case closed!
that != the
case closed!
Casualty?
"There was one casualty from the night. A rider crashed when he hit a metal plate near Georgia Tech and was taken to the hospital, Kassor said."
Without telling us what the diagnosis was on this rider, one could assume he was dead!
I don't think "casualty" was the proper word choice.
Good article other than that. Way to go Connie!
the AJC is hip
they put the 'casual' in 'casualty'
LOL
LOL
ridin' ain't easy
you either ride or die!!!!!1
She also substituted
She also substituted practicable with possible when citing Georgia law. Ponder that.
"Under Georgia law, bicyclists must: Ride as close to the right side of the road as possible, except to avoid hazards, to turn left, when traveling the same speed as cars or when the road is too narrow."
yeah
that part kinda irked me too. there are a lot of times when "as far to the right as practicable" is definitely not the same as "as far to the right as possible."
but then again, i always thought that practicable was a funny word. maybe the AJC folks thought so too...
Possible implies that a
Possible implies that a thing may certainly exist or occur given the proper conditions.
Practicable imples that something may be easily or readily effected by available means or under current conditons.
from wikipederast
"A casualty is a person who is the victim of an accident, injury, or trauma. The word casualties is most often used by the media to describe deaths and injuries resulting from wars or disasters. Casualties is sometimes misunderstood to mean fatalities, but non-fatal injuries are also casualties."
Maybe the war analogy is inappropriate, but it's often made (in many other situations)
'xcept that one
"While Critical Mass flouts the rules, Courteous Mass followed them"
Something about a permit of some sort. There is a long, legal-realist point about enforcement here, but I need to go home.
Isn't there another ride
Isn't there another ride that strictly follows laws. Has an F and an M and a 24 in the name? I wonder if we will be looking over our shoulders a bit more this year?
Dude...
Anyone who follows the laws in FM.24 is getting left in the dust
What a good newspaper write
What a really good newspaper write up about cycling looks like:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/2301375/Los-A...
On the Mandeville Canyon incident and what is happening now. I wish we had journalists this good.
easy
the ajc article's not bad, I think we should welcome more publicity with good attitudes! the next bike article's going to be headlined "bicyclists are proven to be the most sandy people on earth"
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i found this line funny in the times piece: "It's about time you lawless bunch of crayolas get what you deserve!"
many people have been asking
many people have been asking if there will be a repeat Courteous Mass (not sure why they ask me, but that's not the point).
What do ya think? Is there enough interest to do another one?
Good question
Pros: build on publicity of 1st ride > to see if number of riders increase; being more inclusive to people in the bike community who won't participate in critical mass; another reason to ride your bike.
Cons: a really, really, and truly slow ride = hot ride in summer; not very 'entertaining/exciting' (may not be a con to some); still piss off some motorists even when legally riding.
I would be willing to ride another courteous mass. Anyone else?
too long
The fact that it was too long could easily be handled by halving the route. To be honest, I broke off at Piedmont with a few other folks. Whatever the distance was up until that point was more than enough.
I broke off shortly after
I broke off shortly after Piedmont.
I'd ride again, if I had absolutely nothing else better to do.
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I'd be up for a shorter version of this ride in the future.
Perhaps bill it as less of a slow, critical mass-type ride. We'd probably miss fewer lights at a slightly brisker pace.
During the ride some ladies
During the ride some ladies commented to me how happy they were at the pace. They had originally been afraid to get out on the bicycles but were really excited about the ride and wanted to do another one. I think it's appealing to an entirely different demographic than, say, us.
Courteous, like your
Courteous, like your Grandparents, Mass! Maybe we can get AARP to sponsor?
But I see their point and have talked to others about it before. Good beginner level rides in the city and surrounding areas would make people more comfortable, and more likely to ride, on the road. Until some motorist runs them down, anyway.
Sounds like we need a couple
Sounds like we need a couple of different rides to appeal to different people. I'm all for more opportunities to ride bikes. If varying up the types/speeds of rides gets more total people out on the street, I say we do it. So far we need Critical Mass, Courteous Mass and a Fast Mass. Anything else?
Mass Mass
Mass Mass, a Sunday mass organized and run by the church. Your water bottles are blessed before the ride, and for snacks you are given wafers to eat. Catholics and Protestants can bicker about which way to go. Of course they will have a list of 10 rules for everybody to follow.
kidical mass
how about kidical mass?
Were those kids sticking out
Were those kids sticking out of your messenger bag yesterday, Rachel?
yep
Agree. It was supremely boring. I had had way, way more than enough by the time we got to Piedmont Park, and broke off with said group. I also think we could have ridden faster... if you can't keep up/ride in the city, stay in the 'burbs. Sorry, y'all.
That's a crappy attitude
if you can't keep up/ride in the city, stay in the 'burbs.
Have you ever ridden in the burbs? If you're actually on the road, it's 10x scarier than any city street. So effectively, what you're telling people is, "If you can't keep up with my young, fit body and elitist attitude, please just get back in your car and keep trying to run me over." Tell me how that helps anyone?
eat it.
eat it.
p.s., I am not fit, nor am I
p.s., I am not fit, nor am I fast, in fact, I am rather chubby and sluggish. I'm also not an elitist. I hate everyone equally, myself included. To reiterate the point, eat it.
hipster cat says i not cool
hipster cat says i not cool enough for myself.
Fuck you Amber.
Fuck you Amber.
uhmmm
i think we may have the first FU on these boards?
search box: "Fuck You" 8
search box: "Fuck You"
8 pages of results.......
fuckin' fuck
haha.. this actually made me smile. because I understand it.
FUCK YOU TOO, SETH!
yeah riding in the 'burbs
yeah riding in the 'burbs takes a lot more balls than in the city.
yup
when i lived outside the city, i did not ride my bike much. far too many times where i thought i was going to get killed or kidnapped. riding inside the city is a cakewalk compared to that.
no joke
I had a beer can thrown at me on Canton rd in Marietta. People aren't even thinking about the possibility of passing a cyclist out there.
I have beer cans and bottles
I have beer cans and bottles thrown at me while in a CAR on Canton Rd in Marietta. I think that is standard fare in Cobb Co.
These rides are not intended
These rides are not intended to leave everyone looking over their shoulder to see who they are dropping. If you are looking for that type of ride (which I assume you're not as you label yourself slow and chubby)then you can find a wide range of rides to make you happy.
These rides are suppose to build community and to show drivers that we are out there. There is nothing inherently fast about city riding or inherently slow about 'burb riding. It's all about having fun.
You're probably not the horrible worthless person you think you are. But if you really hate yourself and everyone else, are "too fast" for mass rides, and too slow for hammer rides then I don't know why you bother coming out at all.
Careful what you type.
Amber is a tornado wrapped in a hurricane nestled in a box of tsunamis.
haha. Good point. She may go
haha. Good point. She may go invisible and throw her visibility on me, making me double visible. You thought you were just opening up a regular can of worms!!! Ok, the David Cross train stops here.
I don't know
I don't think I'd do it again. I support the cause but the ride is just way too slow, and I haven't come up with any way to improve that.
i'd do it again
but i, too, was ready to head home by piedmont park. the biggest problem was that those of us at the front had to keep stopping to wait for folks who got caught up at lights. not sure how to fix that.
i did talk to a handful of folks (mostly older folks who like biking, but don't do it for sport or commuting) who said that they really enjoyed the pace of the ride. a few people told me that critical mass rides go too fast.
unfortunately, [not running
unfortunately, [not running red lights] === [having to stop and wait for people that stopped at lights to catch up]
So is courteous mass!